There was a good turn up this morning, new faces were invited
to speak and tell of their problems first, although some old hands
jumped the queue.....oh well. Ted Macarthur started the morning "PCs
are a bundle of little problems that all need solving, if you don't
want the problems, don't have a PC". Thanks for that Ted.

	Someone with an Apple has been trying to get  satisfaction
from the Apple Users Group, and it turns out that they are
uncontactable. Darrel Burkey has some prize Apple programs to donate,
and has been unable to give them away because of this
uncontactability.

	Len Richardson has finally got his limited access going thanks
to David Schwabe, still psyching it out though. Bridgette had a w95
machine and an Internet connection with an unknown ISP (will find out
when the bill comes in). She hasn't had much luck connecting yet.

	Betty Haughey who drops in from time to time thanked Ted
Macarther because he look like Jim Hume, for advice some months ago re
Corel 7 or Photoshop, she is very pleased with the program and making
good progress.

	Someone thought the 1RPH program at 10.45 on Thursdays morning
could be improved, Mike Gellard might have a potential volunteer here.
Some discussion, but I guess it was a case of beauty being in the eye
of the beholder.

	Wolf Lieske had scanned something, used OCR to convert it to a
.WPS file and tried to read it in Word, it was a mess. After sorting
out what he was actually doing, it seems that it is a matter of
understanding what your word processor does, for example if Works
makes .WPS files, then you have to read it in Works, or use one the
convertors in the WP to convert it to another format, like .DOC or
.TXT. Good luck Wolf.

	How do you empty a clipboard? An explanation of how the
clipboard works was provided.

	My printer prints German perfectly, but in English, there are
spaces, what is wrong? After a while it was thought that the wrong
driver was being used, but then the question "What sort of printer do
you have?" elicited the response, "it's and old Tandy, they don't make
them any more". Gave up.

	Where is the special character for :-) to be found? and while
on the subject of special characters, Derrick Boyd wanted to know how
to get ê (if that didn't come out on your newsreader, it is an
inferior reader). ALT 136 is that character, and if you play around
with all the ALTs 128 to 255 I think, you will find all sorts of
characters.

	One member had encyclopedia Britannica on CD and it warned
that it would install win32s, would this do any damage to his machine,
the answer is of course NO.

	Another member had downloaded a file in Netscape and he
wondered where it went. There are several ways of finding the file,
the easiest is probably to use the Search or Find facilities, another
way is to start downloading another file and take note of the
directory that Netscape defaults to, or make your own download
directory, which is probably good practice anyway.

	Ken Meadows wanted a laptop, he had an offer of a Toshiba for
$150, this had 2 megs of RAM, or a Total Peripherals machine for $300
with 4 meg of RAM.  Some other options were canvassed, so it's now up
to you Ken, good luck.

	The highlight for me was John Saxon's cartridge refilling
demonstration. This was very good. Lots of old newspaper, some clean
absorbent paper, the appropriate kit, instructions, and away he went,
filling a cartridge from scratch in ten minutes. Thanks John.

	John also has the Zip drive, with the tools disk, and
hopefully he will give a rundown on that disk at the next meeting
before he heads off to the US of A, again.(See report by John Saxon.

	That was it for the day, readers, please feel free to come
along, the next meeting is 24 Jun 1997 at the PCUG Centre. Next
Tuesday, a VCC, so see http://www.pcug.org.au/~ejoseph/ for details if
you don't already have them.

Owen

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