There were 31 people at this meeting. TerryB took hold of the gavel
and I made a list of the topics. Here is the final expanded list:

1. Fixwinxphlp.vbs - TonyB.

2. WS_FTP limited edition - Trevor. What I wanted to know was how to
log on without being prompted for my username and password string each
time I started WS_FTP. The answer was to tick the check box "remember
password" at the login prompt.

3. W98 shutdown feedback - TonyB.

4.a. Mike's wish (a happy story). In 1988 as far as I was aware there
were no Geny programs for the Microbee computer so I wrote one in
Dbase2. Showed the print out of the programme and a print out of a
drop line chart.
4.b. Mission accomplished - HD formatted - KenM.

5. Backup via ghost - CharlieK (second good story of the day). Charlie
reported that following last weeks meeting where several members had
commented that a backup process was pointless unless you ran a "fire
drill" and proved that it worked, he decided to put his to the test.

He used Norton Ghost to copy his critical partition to a different
physical disk, then disconnected the prime disk and rebooted.

All apparently worked well with the system booting up normally, and to
all appearances looking identical to the original system.

He had however discovered a couple of programs that failed to work
because although the shortcuts were on the critical partition, the
executable files were not and thus were not copied.  Just needs some
review to ensure that all critical applications re correctly located.

Then need to address regular incremental updates to ensure minimum
data loss in the event of failure. Ghosting probably not desirable
more than once a week.


6.a. XP and Canon LBP660 printer.
6.b. Zone alarm (again!!!) - Rob.

7.a. New books for old (bookshelf). The 'Bookshelf" application site
has 300 books on a single CDRom for sale $ US 15. The program was
demonstrated at South Side CnC last week. The application allows one
to read txt files on your computer and the elegant, configurable
display looks like a book. The author asks for a contribution but it
is free. The program uses M'soft Notebook and will not run if you have
a different, substituted notebook in use as the default notebook text
file reader. www.classicbookshelf.com/

7.b. Dick Smith Woden plaza. Dick Smith has opened a new store at
Woden plaza. Hardware including robot books and 'cheap' double beam
oscilloscopes are for sale. Dv camera tapes are cheaper than HNormal
stores and are in stock. One of the staff said that the ham radio
people can access the Internet at 9KBAUD. without any wires.
Discussion followed as to what Baud  means.

7.c. MyAlbum: Ted had trouble getting a more recent vs than 1.33 of
this excellent free French program even for real money. Some suggested
searching more. (TedM)

8. JohnS.

A. I think the first 5-10 min demo at the Irish club went well. So
this is a call for more presenters. At this time we have 2 or 3
possibles, but no harm in having a few more. At this time it seems
that the PCUG training centre is fully booked for the remainder of May
and all of June, so demos will be limited to the Irish club S'side
meetings.

B. Windows start-up and shut down problems. Causes can be many and
varied, so the site at www.aumha.org/a/shutdown.htm which concentrates
exclusively on these problems is very welcome.

C. Bit rate & Baud rate: I apologise if I offended anyone with my
vehement assertions that they are not the same thing. Both sides of
the argument are correct. It depends on the circumstances. The
definition that matters is - So for a serial RS232 connection -
between a serial port and a modem (for example), bit rate does equal
Baud rate. But when we apply the term to modern modems which transmit
several values per "signalling element", it gets more complicated.
This is why the term Baud rate has been dropped in favour of Bit rate
(or bps) for most communication devices these days. I agree that
discussion of parity bits etc. only muddies the water {:-((

An attached file provided the following definitions:
Bit rate: the number of bits per second transmitted.
Baud rate: the number of signalling elements per second.

- By using more than two signalling levels or some hybrid modulation
technique, it is possible to represent several bits by one signalling
element.

- With four signal values, each value represents two bits and thus the
bit rate is two times the baud rate.


Regards, Trevor
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