Minutes of the Meeting held 15 January 2002 1. CLEANSWEEP 2002 The new issue of PC User magazine has a free full version of this program on one of the CDs supplied with the magazine. (JimH) 2. EXPERIENCES WITH INTERNET EXPLORER 6. 3. BBC WEBCAMS The BBC had placed webcams in major English cities that allowed you to view the current weather, including rain and snow, at http://www.bbc.co.uk/england/webcams/ (PeterH) 4. PERSONAL EXPERIENCES WITH WINDOWS XP 1. XP Upgrade - JohnS A. Installed on 26th Dec - nothing that could be described as a crash since. No reboots or BSODs. But chickened out and did an "over the top of ME" installation, instead of the recommended clean install over a format C: B. Various things work much better. 1. Faster boot up and shut down (Probably mostly due to MSIE6). 2. Hibernate to disk finally works for me - but unfortunately STR (Suspend to RAM - supported by my motherboard) does not. So Hibernate takes almost as long as a normal shut down & re-boot, but does have the advantage that you "pick up where you left off". 3. Home networking is much improved. Had to change from Netbui to TCP/IP, but it took all of 10 mins "go to woa", including a single tick to allow the "slave" system to access the net via the "main" system. 4.In typical MS fashion there are still more "built in" applications. CD burning, image manipulating, etc. C. On the minus side - rather too much "hand holding" for people who are reasonably familiar with things like the control panel. Also the built in ICF (Internet Connection Firewall) is totally un-configurable. It is either on or off. I have returned to the latest ZoneAlarm. D. Installation: 1. Was very careful with preparations - brought the $19.95 PCUser magazines "XP Pocketbook" and am still finding it very useful. Backed up all data of course. 2. Ran the compatibility tester (on-line) several weeks before the installation, and downloaded recommended drivers at that time. 3. Downloaded and installed the latest Motherboard Bios and VIA chipset software including busmaster drivers, etc.. 4. At various times (not vital at time of upgrade), downloaded and installed. Video and sound drivers. Scanner driver - for Plustek Optic Pro U12. This turned out to have a massive 1 Mb per SECOND memory leak - which after a few 10s of mins or so (running in the background waiting for a button to be pressed!), will overflow conventional RAM (768 Mb) and completely fill 1.2 Gb of virtual memory! The workaround is not to run in the background but just as needed. Needless to say I have written to Plustek about this - no reply yet. Palm Desktop - for Handspring Visor. Task Info - Hardly needed now as very similar functions are built into the Windows Task manager (invoked by the 3 finger salute, CTRL-ALT-DEL). EZAntivirus Many windows critical and other updates from MS. NB. One of these caused Internet Explorer to completely disappear from the desktop and quick launch bar (and add/remove programs so I could not "repair" it). Also could not reinstall as I "have the latest version already installed". A nice little catch-22. It also caused MSIE to think it was no longer the default browser. The workaround was to just browse to the program at C:\Program Files\Internet Explorer find IEXPLORE.EXE and create a new quick launch bar short cut. If time permits - one can remove updates one by one. TICK - couldn't do without it. Eventually had to revert to a slightly older beta version kindly provided by the writer, as the new version does not monitor data bits received. AdAware - etc etc. 5. Needless to say - my system is reasonable new and powerful. N.B. Had a power supply failure shortly after installation. Easy to replace, but A.B & T. who sold me the new one, said that they had almost run out of them "due to the hot weather". (JohnS) 5. POPCORN.EXE v. TELNET.EXE The consensus was that Popcorn.exe was far superior in features. Both allow to you to see and select your mail on the PCUG server without much chance of getting a virus. (TedM) 6. "MENUET" OPERATING SYSTEM THAT FITS ON A FLOPPY DISK. Being a Beta version, it is not suitablefor beginners or those not familiar with assembly language and dos Menuet vs 0.63 Beta is a fully compatible operating system with windows (not microsoft windows). It was written mostly by one person Wille Tutjanma of Finland. It has been written entirely written in raw assembly code. The kernel is is less than 1,440,000 bytes long and will fit on a floppy disk. The site comes with examples, games, an editor, a very basic telnet program and examples etc. The picture of many windows open in colour on page 36 is very encouraging. The system was described in the December issue of Dr. Dobbs Journal p. 32. see it at : www.ddj.com The url for the operating system is www.menuesos.org.org/ The system is fast, free and much like a new kind of Linux.The Scandinavian weather seems to encourage people in the desire to give Bill Gates nightmares. You also need a program called DMPI (free) as it gives services, alowing this dos operating system to run in 32 bit form but with direct access to dos routines through interrupts. The program must be run from a floppy disk, in "pure" dos. i.e. start your computer as a dos machine not in a dos window. Download the program, save it to a floppy disk leave the floppy disk in the disk drive and reboot your computer. If anyone else is feeling courageous and tries it out, please let me know of your experience. This system could give Microsoft a headache but they will soon get over it! (Ted M). 7. MAILWASHER. Users of this program which allows you to see your mail and delete unwanted messages before downloading them to your system are requested by Jeremy Bishop not to use the 'Bounce' feature. (GloriaR) 8. REALPLAYER AllanM reported that he had received some real player video files on CD and had installed the free version of RealPlayer to look at them, as very little else seems to play "Real" files. While the program is free, it requires online registration after three uses or will not work. It is installed on a PC without internet connection and thus cannot be (easily) registered. Suggestions included register on another PC and note the registry entries and transfer them to the required PC, look at one of the crack sites, or find another alternative. Emil later suggested the shareware Merak Media Player ($15) with a free trial version available at http://www.share2.com/merak/download.htm 9. REPORT ON UPGRADES TO TIP 10. PASSWORDS . Several people asked about a password viewer program which decodes all those *********s when you have forgotten the password. Try PassView Vrs 1.0.17 from www.kanastacorp.com (JohnS) I wanted to set my laptop up with the same internet access I have on my desktop machine. I established the TIP connection OK (using the new beaut no script method), but had trouble connecting to TPG Niterider. It seemed that the password I had set up was not what I thought it was. It worked OK on the desktop, but of course I couldn't read the password I was using as it was *'ed out. I had heard there were ways of reading behind the *'s and was pointed to PWLVIEW which allowed you to read the contents of the PWL file which contains your Windows based passwords. Downloaded that, and clunky as it is (DOS Based) it did the job. Also downloaded Info-Ice from http://www.anticodes.com/ and it works by revealing the code when you hover a spyglass over the password. Very effective. Incidentally, during my search for such programs using the terms "Password" and "Reveal" in Google, I was pointed at numerous somewhat dubious sites. I downloaded another program which InoculateIt identified as containing the Password Trojan. Interesting to note that Norton AV 2002 did not detect this virus though it was contained within a zip file. That didn't seem to phase InoculateIT. (above 4 paras. from CharlieK) I read about this password program in PCworld Feb Page 42 by Brad Grimes and how he manages his passwords. Program called Yodlee and he say's most banks have this on their sites as well, it is free at www.yodlee.com. I am going to download it when I log onto the Web. (MervC) 11. USING STREAMING AUDIO TO SEND AUDIO MESSAGES TO FRIENDS. 12. 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