Meeting 26 Jun 2001



		Minutes of the Meeting held 17 July 2001


The following items were discussed:

1. Memory Test x3 - Ted T
2. Slow return of screen after screensaver - Ted T

In relation to the two above items, Ted T said that after having
additional RAM put on his computer the memory test at start
up ran three times instead of once and that his monitor screen was
very slow to come on after the screen saver had operated.
It was suggested that the CMOS settings had been altered and that they
would need to be reset.  With the help of Tony Salvage I changed the
two settings and everything has returned to normal.

3. Multiple monitors - Emil

Windows 98 supports several monitors at once. Some software, for
example, Flight Simulator, makes use of that facility.

Emil enquired on behalf a friend, whether it possible it is possible
that one monitor is fed off an AGP video card, and another off a PCI
video card. An employee of a well-known dealer is that is not
possible.

A related question was whether the user can determine which monitor is
the "primary monitor".

It was suggested that the answer to question one is "maybe", and to
the other "yes".

Roger suggested a search in the Flight simulator newsgroups may yield
the answers.

4. SPAM, ME, Norton Utilities - Jeff

---quote
Jeff reports:

1. A relative has a problem sending  us e-mail from Beijing, China.
For our pcug address she gets a return from TIP "because of Spam".
Suggestions were given about how this blocking could be avoided,
though of course no one wants Spam, and I have put a query into
TIP-Help 

2. For members who have the latest PCUser magazine (for August) I
reported that I had trouble finding some of  the items on the
magazine's CD from its index but had found lots of goodies by using
Windows Explorer to see contents of the disk. For example I am
impressed by a 26 page booklet about Internet provided by
compguidepart3.doc which is not even mentioned in the
magazine. It is in the feature/compguide folder.

I also showed a copy of this article printed using the 2 pages per
sheet printing option so that I had a good readable version of the 26
pages on 13 sheets of A4 paper. This zoom option for printing is a new
feature that has come with WORD 2000. The option is not seen by using
a keyboard or icon short cut to print. Rather it is necessary to
click File/Print and choose the number of  pages per sheet from
the zoom option on the Print page, that is 1, 2, 4, 8 or 16 pages per
sheet!

3. I suggested that our CnC meetings would be improved if members gave
reasons or a basis for their comments, especially when denigrating
something like Window Me or Norton Utilities with an authoritative
sounding "Don't use it".  Some who responded by saying that they had
learnt such things at our meetings did not understand my motive with
this comment. My point was that reasons have not always been given at
meetings and this may have misled people unnecessarily. For example I
am pleased with Me and Norton Utilities,
and would recommend both except for particular situations as when a
driver not included with Me is required for an superseded piece of
equipment or when an appropriate version of Norton's has not been
obtained for the users version of Windows.
----unquote

5. CD Read/Write IDE cable configuration - MikeD
6. "Cannot find Mailhost" - Derek
Owen writes:
---quote
If applicable

The mailserver for POP3 (receiving) and SMTP (sending) is
mailhost.pcug.org.au

If you are using Outlook Express, go to 

Tools->Accounts and select your "TIP mail account.
Then select the server tab and ensure the above information is entered
correctly.

Often, when failing to make a connection due to the line dropping out,
the servers reset to the localhost address 127.0.0.1 and thus need
reconfiguring
----unquote

7. TIP Web space - John S
8. BIOS Battery - Bob S



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