Minutes of the Meeting held 19 February 2002 The notes of matters discussed at the meeting follow: '1. (a) Internet Explorer deja vu. On 11 February Microsoft posted a cumulative patch for Internet Explorer 5.01, 5.5 and 6 which when installed is directed to eliminating previously discussed security vulnerabilities affecting these versions, plus eliminating six newly discovered vulnerabilities. This is classed as a 'critical' update. The URL for the patch is: www.microsoft.com/windows/ie/critical/q316059/default.asp ****Addendum***** The URL for item 1(a) was missing a vital component. Apologies. It should be; www.microsoft.com/windows/ie/downloads/critical/q316059/default.asp (b) Inkjet ink costs. A comparison was made and discussed between cartridges purchased at retail, and home refilling. (c) DVD. Prints made from movie frames saved to disk via a computer DVD player were shown. - Mobyj 2. XP Update (Charlie K) Charlie reported on his ongoing trial of XP. While generally happy with the operating system and its interface, he was not happy that it now seemed to be running very slowly on his Pentium 2, 333mhz machine with 128Mg of memory. General consensus on XP Newsgroups seemed to be that you need at least 256 Meg or more to get good performance. Charlie has opportunity to borrow some memory so will experiment, but for the time being looks like reverting to Win 98 SE. Fortunately he installed XP as a second operating system so can use the dual boot option and doesn't need to do any re-installing. 3. (a) Once in a 1001 years. (b) Ultimate internet hacker solution. 4. (a) FTP. JohnS says "I had a problem uploading files via WS_FTP (latest version), to my TIP web space. No problems to another member's space, or to web space on a commercial server in the US. AllanM helped a lot by deleting an un-needed file with incorrect permissions and access via WS_FTP was O.K. at the PCUG Centre - but still no good from home. The connection would time out on the LIST command. After a lot of research, the problem turned out to be ZoneAlarm which was told to allow WS_FTP to transmit, and indeed allowed that to everywhere apart from my own webspace!. Still don't know the mechanism, but the workaround is to shut down Zone alarm during that particular upload". AllanM has promised to repeat his advice about ZoneAlarm advanced security settings. (b) Printer problems John's HP 830C printer has failed with a constantly flashing "out of ink" alarm light - both cartridges are full and contacts, etc. have been thoroughly cleaned. The heads seem to "jump" slightly away from the right hand end of the slide at about 30 sec intervals. A cursory (no dismantling) check revealed a mass of congealed ink (some lumps up to 0.5 cm cubes!) on and around the foam rubber pad. Extracted some of this but still no joy. Suspect ink may have got into an end of slide limit switch or something like that. No positive suggestions received, but previous experience indicates that it will be hard to dismantle. (c) CandC member list Members were reminded that Owen's CandC listing is still available on the Web at http://www.pcug.org.au/pcug/candc/cgi-bin/cnc.cgi (but you do need the password to access). The list now includes Email addresses in text (not just links). A printout was passed around for updates. (all from John S) 5. (a) A c.$US10 cardboard telephone (including call charges). 'Telephone cardboard' see further details at www.digit-life.com/articles/taxofon/index.html This site describes and shows pictures of a proposed 'phone-card phone' whose price of around US$10 would include 60 minutes call time. It can be used for OUTgoing calls only. The phone could use a new battery made of manganese dioxide, printed and pasted on to cardboard, which has been developed by Power Paper Ltd.?? in the UK. The battery is very cheap and long lasting. Also 'Telespree' has developed another disposable prototype mobile phone. It does not need a display or keys. It uses voice recognition. It is predicted that telecommunication companies will undergo severe changes. Payphones for instance are rarely used in Japan and many operators in the USA. eg. Bellsouth plans to disable all 143,000 phones by 2002. (b) Amazon.com. Amazon.com is even more easy to use to buy books etc but the shipping charges and our low dollar value costs are still prohibitive. The books I bought on Monday are unobtainable in Australia. My books arrive on 19th March. Books costing over US $100 get a cheaper shipping rate.Try the service out. But first sell your house. (d) Vienna cafe society In Vienna a new internet service is in use in coffee shops. It consists of a wireless network of 20 transmiters/receivers. This allows access at 11 mbytes/second to the internet for business men/women in coffee shops with laptop computers. This lets them communicate with their work computers while enjoying their coffee and making business arrangements. It could be described as a City Area Network or C.A.N. You pay for the service to the coffee shop. Why can't we have such a service here?. Cheaper than Telstra ? This looks to me like a very promising service Canberra/ PCUG could offer it's business folk. But I could be wrong. (all from Ted M) 6. VB course on 3 March. (John A) An introductory Visual Basic course will be held on Sunday March 3rd at the PCUG Centre. The usual arrangements - booking via Petra 7. CD-R blanks. (Emil) Wayne drew my attention to CD blanks sold as a Special in Dick Smith stores with the wording on the cover : "TDK CD-R AUDIO XA. This is a CD for recording Music use. When used with a CD recorder that bears the logo mark [compact DISK digital audio], you can produce your own original CDs. Original CD recordings can be used in the same manner as ordinary pre-recorded CDs. This product is based on standards in Orange Book Part II." I am puzzled by this for I confess I treated such a claim as an ad talk. It has been my understanding that all cd-r blanks are sold unformatted. The formatting is supplied by the cd burning software when a particular format is selected by the user. I did a web search on the subject but it was in a way inconclusive. I could not find any reference that would distinguish those TDK cd blanks from other quality cd blanks. Apparently all cd blanks are manufactured on the standards of the Orange Book. So, my question remains: Does anyone know whether those TDK blanks are specialised cd blanks superior to other quality blanks in respect to music recording? (My current favourite CD blanks are LASER brand Premium Gold 80 min rated 1x-24x. They sell for $17-$19 per pack of 20 at the computer market.) 8. (a) View homepage problem. (b) TransACT info. (c) Weather Bureau site for storms 9. Clean-Sweep. 10. Setting up new computer and adding scanner. 11. BIOS reporting. 12. Request for W95 instruction disk.' ****************************************************** Coffee & Chat Page, inluding archives of past meetings http://www.pcug.org.au/pcug/candc/ ******************************************************
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