Another interesting morning with Alf purporting to be Gloria for the morning get together of about 20 of us. First an announcement; The PCUG is looking for volunteers 18 Mar 96 to man a stall at the ACT Alive show. Only a couple of hours time is required, and if you can help, contact Lis Shelley on 248 6607 (ah), or e-mail her at pcug.editor@pcug.org.au Jim Hume gave a run down on the IRC, in fact he has an article Februarys Sixteen Bits. IRC, particularly with MIRC is suffering at the hands of hackers, and while there have been some fight backs, the solution appears to be in a new IRC program called PIRCH. It has an easier to use interface than MIRC2, and supports most of the MIRC2 functions or commands. It requires Windows 3.1 (or was that win3.11) up to Win 95, 4 Mb of RAM, and a winsock. It's a 16 bit application, and shareware with a registration cost of $10. For further information, visit http://www.bcpl.lib.md.us/~frappa/pirch.html and if that doesn't work, e-mail jhume@pcug.org.au Nick had a problem that he has been trying to solve for a number of months. He has 3HDs and a CD ROM on the one machine running Win 95. His third HD is running off a secondary IDE and he continues to get and IRQ conflict with the video card. Win 95 seemed to be the culprit, MS couldn't help and endless other approaches got nowhere. Over to C&C ! The problem was a bit beyond us, though some suggestions included going back to Win 3.11 and DOS, and trying to get rid of the IRQ conflict that way, and apparently there is a page on the WWW known as Frank's Page that lists details of every know driver for Win 95, perhaps an e-mail to Frank might elicit a solution. (The URL for Franks Page was not known) Alf had a cheapy CD ROM which wouldn't work on his machine, a double speed, whereas it would work on Emil's 4 speed, why this was so is unknown, and remains a mystery. Alf also noted he was having difficulty getting on the Internet using basic access. He was advised to read all the Internet articles in Sixteen Bits, especially Nhan Tran's article on using terminal. Ken Meadows is now happily on the Net with thanks to Emil and John Allen's paper, dropout.txt or .faq. Ken reported that by going through John's paper, he has (hopefully) overcome his dropout problem or problems. One of which was an old T200 touchfone, one of three devices he has in parallel on the his phone line ! Gordon Urquhart gave a run down of how he was having trouble converting from the Beta version of Win 95 to the full blown Win 95 on his 40 Mhz 386 with 8 meg of RAM. Last heard he was mumbling something about getting a Pentium and 16 Mbs of RAM. Good luck Gordon. The Stuffing on Monday night was interesting as there were only two magazines left over, and Peter Verstappen reports that he has another 150 new member disks to do. It was not sure how many PCUG members there were , but it now seems to be about 3300, and half of these have internet access. Some discussion followed on the workload of the committee servicing this membership number and it was agreed that the committee must be a preety competent and hard working bunch to be able to cope. The meeting finished at about 11.30 and broke into general chatter. Next meeting will be 5 Mar 96, all going well. As a follow up to the last meetings rave on lightening, here is something from aus.commsReply-To: Anthony_g._Spierings@ieaust.org.au Newsgroups: aus.comms Distribution: world Subject: Electric Shocks from Telephones Date: 11 Feb 1996 01:47:54 GMT Message-ID: <1070399454.521447023@ieaust.org.au > Organization: Institution of Engineers, Australia Lines: 68 As a follow up to some postings reqarding modem being fried during thunderstorms; Article on page 3 of The Couier Mail date 10/2/96, titled "Shock for phone users", part of: "TWO people were taken to hospital yesterday after getting an electric shock when lighting hit telephone lines" [SNIP] "A Caboolture woman and a child form Kippa Ring were taken to hospital suffering electric shocks from telephones in different incidents" ~~~~~~~~~~~~ [SNIP] In my opinion it would be unlikely that the lighting actually struck the telephone lines, more likely it was difference in earth mat potential. The phone lines in Kippa Ring are all underground and most of Caboolture are as well. Some lessions; 1.The storm was not that bad. I looked at the lighting tracker before I left work and I have seen much worse. The only point of interest was the colour radar on the Channel 10 news was the storm front was the best defined one seen in a while. Normally storms are a series of single cells which have a life of there own. This storm front was about 200 km's long. 2.The storm season in South East Queensland has returned back to normal. It has been quiet for over 10 years and ten years ago modems in the household wern't exactly common. Another thing which was not common is telephones in the kitchen. Most new houses have an outlet where you can talk on the phone, look out the window and lean on the kitchen sink (which is connected to earth) 3. Modems are not usually covered by lighting damage by most insurance policies. 4. From memory; on average S.E.Qld has 3 lighting strikes per square kilometre per year. It is only a matter of time before there is one near you. 5. Use the telephone only if absolutely necessary during a storm and don't touch anything which is earthed. 6. (I know I'm nagging but) disconnect the modem from the wall. 7. It is highly unlikely that you can sue Telstra or Optus for damage. Remember they have warned you in the Telephone directory of the dangers. Keep your head down. Regards, Anthony SpieringsReturn to the Index or the Coffee and Chat Page