Meeting 3 April 2001



		Minutes of the Meeting held 24 Apr 2001



1. Problem with Excel - Anne
2. "At Home with your PC" - RodB
Rod writes:
Since originally mentioning this offer which turned up minus a key
part, that part has arrived at no charge as expected and I have had a
chance to examine and organize the delivery. Quite smart, but
expensive and  probably irritating to handle as the volume increases.
I will probably continue to receive updates for a while as my wife has
shown an interest. I passed the material around the meeting for
general examination.

3. Old [hot water] boiler [at the PCUG Centre]; Sixteen Bits
[stuffing] - Allan M
4. 40 GB HD - ideal partitioning - Kevin
Kevin writes:
Opinions were varied as to the need, if any, to partition, a large HD.
Given that modern discs use FAT 32 files, there is no technical
necessity to partition. Nevertheless many users do. If one is into CD
Burning, is is useful to have a small partition in which to accumulate
the data that is about to be transferred to the CD.  CD Burning
programs do not like having to pull together data that maybe spread
all around a big HD. 


5. Favorites folder [IE] - Charlie

Charlie writes:
I had recently corrupted his favourites folder and tried to
reconstitute it from a recent backup.

Initially this didn't appear to work, but on closer examination it was
shown that it did work.

Part of the problem was that he moved the original (corrupted) folder
to another location, just in case, and then reconstituted from the
backup.

The problem was that Internet Explorer seemed to still be accessing
the moved, corrupted folder - however in hindsight that probably was
not the case.

The interesting point was that I then tried to delete the old
corrupted folder from its new location and couldn't because it is a
system folder and Windows won't allow such a deletion.

He decided to boot into DOS and do the delete from there, however a
listing of the directories does not show any Favourites (or Favorites)
folder or Directory.

Why does DOS not list any Favorites folder in the Windows directory
when using Windows Explorer it is listed there as clear as day???

One suggestion was that under DOS, you need to specify a particular
parameter to display folders with the Systems attribute.

Owen writes:

Using W95 or W98, you can check for hidden files by typing at the C:
(or whatever) prompt in MSDOS:
dir /a:H or dir /a:H /O:n for an alphabetical listing.

6. Mouse Problem - Elizabeth

Alan writes:

The one thing everyone agreed on was that it was *not* a mouse
problem!

Other symptoms, namely "weird colour patches" etc led to hypotheseis
that video card may be improperly seated ....

I (finally - Fri afternoon) visited Elizabeth as arranged at meeting.
The mouse is clean, inside & out, and works fine.  The machine worked
fine while I was there, including some playing withn Word, and TIP
connection.

I pulled the cover off. The machine, a PIII 330, has a motherboard
with integrated video, so bad seating of card is not applicable.  All
components seemed properly seated/connected, and the inside was
(amazingly, compared to [his] machines!) clean and dust free. All
outside connectors, before and hopefully after, seemed firm.

Elizabeth has a Windows colour scheme [I was uncomfortable with] but
she thinks is nice!  Other than that it all seemed good stuff.

We agreed that it was one of life's great mysteries  Something sure to
go wrong again after I left. 

7. Speakers - Alan V
Alan writes:
I asked for opinions regarding speakers for computers: was it simply
"the bigger the wattage the louder?" ...
A number of people made useful remarks in a foreign language which
included words like "sub-woofer"and "base" and "treble".  One
suggestion was "you can get quite big ones at the markets for under
$15" . With my non-existant musical appreciation, that sounds a good
way to go.  It was also authoratively stated that my observed "my
ancient sound cards seem to produce much louder noises/music from my
speakers than new cards" was quite correct as old cards did not assume
amplified speakers, whereas nowadays it is assumed speakers are
amplified.

8. Ad-aware - Emil J

Ad-aware is a free program that detects applications, cookies and
registry entries that conduct market research into your computer usage
and then report to base (called "spyware"). It allows the option to
delete some or all of what it found. It warns that the deletion of
some may render unworkable those 'free' programs that rely on
advertising revenue. Emil found it useful. It is available at:
http://www.lavasoft.de

9. Macro - RodS
10. Hotel Bookings at strandby prices - Kevin
Kevin writes:
I have come across a Web Site run by an organisation called
Wotif.com, that coordinates discount accommodation at leading hotels
in Australian capital cities (plus NZ & some other overseas
locations).  
Excess rooms can be booked up to about 8 days in advance. It was
surprising to see the number of hotels participating, the good
selction of dates available and the discounts (many at half price or
better).
The URL is  http://www.wotif.com.au

11. Go!Zilla - Leigh

There was general agreement that Go!Zilla is bad news. It was strongly
urged that Download Accelerator Plus is a better alternative.
Available from TUCOWS and
http://www.speedbit.com/


13. Euro [symbol] - Jim
Jim writes:
As mentioned at the Weston C & C meeting this week, the following ties
up an outstanding issue that was discussed by several attendees at
last week's Belconnen C & C, namely where to find the Euro symbol in
Windows and Word. 

When using Windows and Word, the Euro symbol can be inserted by
ensuring the numbers lock is activated and then pressing and holding
down the Alt key while typing 0128 on the numeric keypad. An
alternative method is to click on the 'Insert' item on the menu bar
then open 'Symbol' on the drop down menu and making the choice from
there. Another alternative, at least with Windows Me and Word 2000 is
Alt+ Ctr+e(or E). Note though that the euro symbol is not supported by
all of the installed MS fonts so if you are using a less common one,
it may not be there. Also, don't assume that all older printers will
easily accommodate the euro symbol. A web site that explains much,
e.g, the versions of Windows and Word that support the euro, as well
as providing an enjoyable jaunt for those interested in fonts, through
the various links and references listed in it, is:
www.microsoft.com/windows/euro.asp


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Thank you to all contributors at the meeting and to these notes 
					Emil


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