Meeting 3 July 2000


Coffee and Chat Notes (Southside) Tuesday 3/7/2000
The meeting Started at 10 am in the Irish club at Weston. Jim offered to
chair the meeting. 23 people attended.

Eric the treasurer said money was in hand. Eric was appointed one of four to
sign
for financial matters.

John ( K) talked about Vet newsletter re viruses. The IPE  version was free,
Vet Super cost $40 worked with  Win  V3.1 and was well maintained by
Internet updates. See    www.vet.com.au      John updated Vet every Monday.
John S said how to detect a virus by its characteristics. Basically don't
open attachments that were unexpected or had suspicious names. Run a virus
checker first.

 Jeff spoke about the need for helpers at the Belconnen library.

Merv spoke about Telstra billing and the need to check for errors as he
thought that one phone call resulted in multiple charges possibly due to
relay of calls to several exchanges ..

Rod spoke about 'Access' and  some problems. Messages never made it to news
groups. No attachments should be sent to a newsgroup message. '

Kryten has some very fast  periods and had improved.  Graham and Ted Had
very fast  download segments on occasions.

Jim spoke about dropouts   Merv and John  said that  modem technology was at
the edge of reliability.

Kryn spoke about slow imaging with his new scanner.  He had thought that he
might need to make his computer faster. It was suggested that his problem
was probably due to the software being slow. It was mentioned that
maintenance  with removal of  temporary files and registry clean up might
help. Ted and others said that with  Paintshop pro, the image appeared
almost as soon as the scanner had finished with the image.
Gloria said that a visit to    www.scan.com  might help generally for those
with a new scanner.
John (K) said don't scan at too high a resolution. Merv said a good rule was
to scan at half the capacity of the printer. Richard said to start the
software first and reduce the DPI scan level. Ted said that he sometimes
scans postcard photos
and creates  20 to 50 mb images to enlarge them.  The image still appears
reasonably soon
(after less than two minutes) after a somewhat longer scan using Paint shop
pro.

A short break for ordering lunch was followed by a resumption at 11.10 am.

Ted mentioned a problem with a smoke detector which was  years old. and the
battery worked but it wouldn;t detect smoke. A lively discussion followed.
Eugen offered a lot of help. He installed and checked many smoke detectors.
He said that he changed batteries every year and tested the smoke detection
aspect once a week by using a smoking wooden skewer. He had found no real
difference in effectiveness no matter what the price was.

Gloria said that CALMS installs detectors for free if you were a pensioner.
To stop the smoke detector making a noise one could wave a towel at the
device or just wait. Eugen said to not install them in a corner. Ted said
that the radioactive element in one of his detectors  was Americum 241 with
37Kbq (37 thousand bequerals of radioactive energy) in it.--Americum 241
has a rather long half life of 7,370 years! according to an article he found
dated
1998 on the web. Clearly there is some unused radioactivity in the humble
smoke
detector. Careful disposal would seem necessary even though the
radioactivity is low
 it is very persistent.The effective life of the element in a detector was
equally important as the battery life. Perhaps the detector shown at the
meeting had insufficient Americum 241 initially and that it why it failed at
5 years and not at about 7,000 years.There is a potentiometer in the device.
Maybe they are set to not detect smoke after three years or so.

Further there was no warning of the loss of activity of the radioactive
element except by testing with smoke. The device made a chirping noise when
the battery was running low. A pair of  'RingGrip' devices bought from
Woolworths were cheap and were properly labelled. They were warranted for 3
years and the date of manufacture on the label was 18/5/2000.  Putting  your
own label with the date of purchase would help tell when to replace it

Richard said that he had trouble with the program 'Real Audio' . John (S)
said that  program was never time limited but there were two versions a
free ware version and a share ware version.

Anne had problems with her computer when it stopped when using ' Defrag'  It
stopped at the 10% defragged level. It gave a message " content changing"
Grahame said to wait and stick with it. Merv said to boot up to DOS and
from DOS begin defragging the hard drive. i.e. Type at the DOS prompt
Scandisk /all or / full . Without windows being in use then this might work.
Ann needed was helped with how to go to DOS.

 Maureen asked if anyone had experience with 'Stockeasy' Version 4, share
program.  She had a problem with " Date History" John said that he used
EasyChart.

Eric asked about " the use of Printkey

John spoke about the selection and purchase of his computer.It is a Pentium
III  running at 667mhz, with  128 k of P133 ram. It has a 32 mb videocard
(Savage S3 AGP x4) and a case with a 230 watt power supply.  It took him
half an hour to assemble it but a lot longer to install the
software. He had also purchased a 20gig Fujitsu hard drive.   The hard disk
was partitioned in to three sections. He had problems with all the new gear
being recognised by W98 Special Edition 2 , with many reboots being
necessary.
A problem remains. He is unable to access a bank service. He said that the
machine ran quite fast and he had saved a worthwhile amount of money in
building it himself.The suspend to Ram was not working and gave a " fatal
error " warning.

End of notes CnC Southside
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